german SS Archimedes (+1864)
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general
nationality german
purpose transport
type cargo ship
propulsion sail and steam
date built 1838
status
unknown
details
weight (tons) 237  grt
dimensions 42 x 7.5 x -- m
material iron
engine 1 x 2 cyl. compound engine, 2 masts, single shaft, 1 screw
power 100  h.p.
speed  
about the loss
cause lost ran aground (wrecked)
other reasons gale/storm
date lost 01/03/1864  [dd/mm/yyyy]
casualties 0
about people
builder
Marshall Brothers, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
last owner
[1]Perlbach H. J. & Co., Hamburg
SS Archimedes (+1864)
period 1858 ~ 1864
prev. owners
[2]Elbe & Humber Steam Navigation Co., Hamburg
SS Archimedes
period 1846 ~ 1858
captain
about the wreck
depth (m.) 22 max. / 9 min. (m)
orientation
protected
war grave
updates
entered by Lettens Jan
entered 01/07/2002
last update Lettens Jan
last update 08/07/2013
 
  Position  
 
[1] unknown member17/04/2008
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  The Wreck today  
 

Stubbe Marcel20/02/2005

Leveled in 1925 with dynamite, she lies scattered all over. The bow is at 22 m, the engine room at 18m and other pieces in 9m water. Nearby lies a small fishing vessel, sunk when colliding with the wreck.

unknown member17/04/2008

There is for years a misunderstanding about the SS Archimedes Wreck. About 1970 a wreck is found in the Oostvoorne Lake; this wreck is named Archimedes, however it can not be the SS Archimedes. Historical SS Archimedes 1838 built by Francis Pettit Smith was from wood and the  wreck is from iron. 

Archimedes sunk 1864 ; Dutch wreck register (recorded 1936 ) informs 1884 as date of sinking. Also recorded very near wreck 'Germania' , a fisher ship from Belgium sunk 1906.

In fact on the location in the Oostvoorne Lake there are 2 wrecks. Wreck of the steam-freighter Littlebeck from West-Hartlepoole sunk 1884 and the wreck of the Ostend(Belgium) Fish-steamer Germaine sunk 1903.

3 km away in Distance in the Slufter Area in 1989 there has been found the wreck Slufter4 ( SL4).  This wreck has lots of data equal with that of SS Archimedes ( same region, year, dimensions and coal on board ).     However steam engine and historical screw haven't been found, so it's not sure that SL4 has been SS Archimedes.  However the chance to find nearby another wreck also with all this data reduces to nill.   There is a painting in the museum of the city of Brielle with the sinking of SS Archimedes at that region in 1864; so it's for sure SS Archimedes sunk there in 1864.    

 

 


Lettens Jan01/03/2009

None of the positions of Marcel Stubbe (including his own) are in correspondence with the dive. All positions are in land while the dive report speaks about 9-22 m depth !

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unknown member17/04/2008Historical SS Archimedes from Francis Pettit Smith is built 1838 in Pembroke by Henri Wimshurst. It was the first vessel over 200 tons with a screw.

For demonstration of screw propulsion it visited lots of places all over the world. Later the ship has been sold for merchant purposes. In 1864 on journey from Rotterdam to Hamburg it was surprised by a storm and couldn´t return safe to Rotterdam. It sunk in the mouth of river Mase. The crew was saved by lifeboat captain Arie Weltevreden. About this action mr. Weltevreden order a painting from artist Arie de Groot. Nowadays this painting can be found in the Museum of the city of Brielle.
Stubbe Marcel20/02/2005The Archimedes was one of the first steamships, built in 1846 in the shipyard Thomas Marshall in South Shields for the Elbe-Humber Dampfschiffahrtge-Gesellschaft. When trying to get through a storm, her 80hp engine could not maintain course and she ran aground. The crew was saved. The wreck was later sold ´´in bits and pieces´´.

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About Owners
 
Perlbach H. J. & Co., Hamburg

Six small steamships listed by Lloyds in 1892.
 
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 Marshall Brothers, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Willington Quay-on-Tyne
 
 
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